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		<title>By: doug clark</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-190306</link>
		<dc:creator>doug clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jul 2009 00:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hasnt trader gone belly up? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hasnt trader gone belly up?</p>
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		<title>By: Business owner</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-155700</link>
		<dc:creator>Business owner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 02:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Posted this on Google, and now i come across this...

I own an autoglass business. The Yellow Pages are the backbone of my
business and i cannot imagine what would happen to me - or my
competitors for that matter - with out them. People have been saying
that the directories are dead and noone uses them. Hogwash. I can tell
you for a fact that 75% - yes seventy five percent - of my new
customers find me because of my ad. My PRINTED ad. Not some seach
engine or Google or their technophone. The printed directory. Without
it I would be up a creek. They are a tad expensive, but its all about
VALUE. And i get back every YP advertising-dime in the first week of
the month.
I am tired of hearing that the printed book is old-fashioned and
worthless. I depend on it. A large amount of my customers use it and
just because some new high-tech gizmo or website does searches and
fancy digital-finds doesnt mean a large percent of the regular
population dont still use the good ol&#039; book. Its faster, more complete
and it works. As stated above 75% find me with their autoglass needs
because of the book. I can count on one hand the customers that say
they found me by my website or thru a search engine.
Also, there is an older population 50+ that still dont even HAVE a
computer. My parents dont and a large number of their friends dont.
Thats hard for anyone here to probably fathom, but they arent going to
show up on a webblog to state their case are they?
Using a printed directory lacks the new fangled &quot;cachet&quot; of an iphone
or blackberry or IMac2000 or whatever, but it still works, and my
business depends on it to continue to do so.
Its unfortunate their unit price doesnt reflect the value that the
company has. (especially on my bottom line)
But the traders are probably all part of the techno group and probably
share the misguided perception regarding YPs valuable - and still
viable - printed product.

Sorry for the rant, nothing personal, but i just wanted to get an advertiser&#039;s point of view out there.

Thanks for my few minutes on my (yellow) soapbox.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Posted this on Google, and now i come across this&#8230;</p>
<p>I own an autoglass business. The Yellow Pages are the backbone of my<br />
business and i cannot imagine what would happen to me &#8211; or my<br />
competitors for that matter &#8211; with out them. People have been saying<br />
that the directories are dead and noone uses them. Hogwash. I can tell<br />
you for a fact that 75% &#8211; yes seventy five percent &#8211; of my new<br />
customers find me because of my ad. My PRINTED ad. Not some seach<br />
engine or Google or their technophone. The printed directory. Without<br />
it I would be up a creek. They are a tad expensive, but its all about<br />
VALUE. And i get back every YP advertising-dime in the first week of<br />
the month.<br />
I am tired of hearing that the printed book is old-fashioned and<br />
worthless. I depend on it. A large amount of my customers use it and<br />
just because some new high-tech gizmo or website does searches and<br />
fancy digital-finds doesnt mean a large percent of the regular<br />
population dont still use the good ol&#8217; book. Its faster, more complete<br />
and it works. As stated above 75% find me with their autoglass needs<br />
because of the book. I can count on one hand the customers that say<br />
they found me by my website or thru a search engine.<br />
Also, there is an older population 50+ that still dont even HAVE a<br />
computer. My parents dont and a large number of their friends dont.<br />
Thats hard for anyone here to probably fathom, but they arent going to<br />
show up on a webblog to state their case are they?<br />
Using a printed directory lacks the new fangled &#8220;cachet&#8221; of an iphone<br />
or blackberry or IMac2000 or whatever, but it still works, and my<br />
business depends on it to continue to do so.<br />
Its unfortunate their unit price doesnt reflect the value that the<br />
company has. (especially on my bottom line)<br />
But the traders are probably all part of the techno group and probably<br />
share the misguided perception regarding YPs valuable &#8211; and still<br />
viable &#8211; printed product.</p>
<p>Sorry for the rant, nothing personal, but i just wanted to get an advertiser&#8217;s point of view out there.</p>
<p>Thanks for my few minutes on my (yellow) soapbox.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-146324</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:50:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t thing that Yellow Pages as a whole will disappear. It is evolving into something that is quite impressive from a small business owners point of view. I was amazed by their recent initiative of their multimedia package that includes Google Adwords in my print ad that result in sponsored links on Google for my service, The sponsored links connect back to my companies online ad that is also in print, and professional television style commercials across a wide spectrum of websites including google and youtube. I now get the best of both worlds.

ylo.un Seems a good place to invest for the future especially with a yield of around 15% compounded per annum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t thing that Yellow Pages as a whole will disappear. It is evolving into something that is quite impressive from a small business owners point of view. I was amazed by their recent initiative of their multimedia package that includes Google Adwords in my print ad that result in sponsored links on Google for my service, The sponsored links connect back to my companies online ad that is also in print, and professional television style commercials across a wide spectrum of websites including google and youtube. I now get the best of both worlds.</p>
<p>ylo.un Seems a good place to invest for the future especially with a yield of around 15% compounded per annum.</p>
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		<title>By: Yellow Pages Are Not Very Green &#124; The Other Bloke's Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-145716</link>
		<dc:creator>Yellow Pages Are Not Very Green &#124; The Other Bloke's Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 17:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] effort on the first of the 3R&#8217;s of recycling: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.&#160; In that vein, Mark Evans questioned whether anyone would miss the Yellow Pages.  It seems kind of strange to see a feature story in the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] effort on the first of the 3R&#8217;s of recycling: Reduce, Reuse, Recycle.&#160; In that vein, Mark Evans questioned whether anyone would miss the Yellow Pages.  It seems kind of strange to see a feature story in the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: B gaines</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-145302</link>
		<dc:creator>B gaines</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>85% of the u.s. Population reported using a print yellow pages in 2007.
Source:marketingcharts.com

Also, in reference to waste spending statements; the yellow pages is responsible for influencing over a trillion dollars in purchasing decisions that benefit economic health.

The yellow pages has been deceased for 20 years but I 
am impressed with their after-life.

The yellow pages has been deceased since 1988 but I am impressed with their after-life.
While I appreciate opinions &amp; assumptions there&#039;s no doubt that some people do not use or care for the un-sexy bulky monitor shelf but it is still the most trusted medium by the u.s. consumer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>85% of the u.s. Population reported using a print yellow pages in 2007.<br />
Source:marketingcharts.com</p>
<p>Also, in reference to waste spending statements; the yellow pages is responsible for influencing over a trillion dollars in purchasing decisions that benefit economic health.</p>
<p>The yellow pages has been deceased for 20 years but I<br />
am impressed with their after-life.</p>
<p>The yellow pages has been deceased since 1988 but I am impressed with their after-life.<br />
While I appreciate opinions &amp; assumptions there&#8217;s no doubt that some people do not use or care for the un-sexy bulky monitor shelf but it is still the most trusted medium by the u.s. consumer.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-140680</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:49:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree in many respects, but you need to look beyond that big yellow tombe. What you fail to realize is that YP generates signficant revenue from the Internet outside of its own website. Much of the data you get from Google when you look up something or other is in fact provided to Google by YP, and for which they get paid.

YP has an army of sales people that extract lucrative listing fees from small businesses. That data eventually shows up in Google. And Google buys it coz they don&#039;t have that salesforce.

YP has not done a great job with their own websites, but they&#039;re doing a good job of monetizing their data.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree in many respects, but you need to look beyond that big yellow tombe. What you fail to realize is that YP generates signficant revenue from the Internet outside of its own website. Much of the data you get from Google when you look up something or other is in fact provided to Google by YP, and for which they get paid.</p>
<p>YP has an army of sales people that extract lucrative listing fees from small businesses. That data eventually shows up in Google. And Google buys it coz they don&#8217;t have that salesforce.</p>
<p>YP has not done a great job with their own websites, but they&#8217;re doing a good job of monetizing their data.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry Welford</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-136725</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Welford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 17:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly Yellow Pages must milk the golden goose for as long as possible.  However to my mind that horse has been dead for some time.

The sad thing is that the Yellow Pages search function is so poor that it is usually much quicker to Google it straight away.  All that Yellow Pages can do is make the most of its revenues from print, until they decide to kill this.

Undoubtedly there is a large section of the population, including many seniors, who do find the directory is useful.  However the burden this is putting on the recycling of newsprint is a heavy price for society to pay.  It will probably need to be put out of its misery earlier than Yellow Pages might wish from a purely profit point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly Yellow Pages must milk the golden goose for as long as possible.  However to my mind that horse has been dead for some time.</p>
<p>The sad thing is that the Yellow Pages search function is so poor that it is usually much quicker to Google it straight away.  All that Yellow Pages can do is make the most of its revenues from print, until they decide to kill this.</p>
<p>Undoubtedly there is a large section of the population, including many seniors, who do find the directory is useful.  However the burden this is putting on the recycling of newsprint is a heavy price for society to pay.  It will probably need to be put out of its misery earlier than Yellow Pages might wish from a purely profit point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/11/17/would-anyone-miss-the-yellow-pages/comment-page-1/#comment-136149</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 03:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We the technorati use the internet to find almost everything, from pizza to plumbers. But there&#039;s a world out there that hasn&#039;t realized the grand shift. Our customers at HomeStars are big Yellow Pages spenders, and they think that people are looking for them there. Some are successful, but many are not, and their audience they target through those pages tends to be an older, less tech savvy crowd. One of our customers told us recently that their company spends upwards of $600k on the YP in the GTA alone! So either he&#039;s fully delusional (which he might be) or there is still good returns for advertising there. 

Of course, we think HomeStars is a better form of advertising for the home improvement specialists, but we have a long way to go to convince this sector.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We the technorati use the internet to find almost everything, from pizza to plumbers. But there&#8217;s a world out there that hasn&#8217;t realized the grand shift. Our customers at HomeStars are big Yellow Pages spenders, and they think that people are looking for them there. Some are successful, but many are not, and their audience they target through those pages tends to be an older, less tech savvy crowd. One of our customers told us recently that their company spends upwards of $600k on the YP in the GTA alone! So either he&#8217;s fully delusional (which he might be) or there is still good returns for advertising there. </p>
<p>Of course, we think HomeStars is a better form of advertising for the home improvement specialists, but we have a long way to go to convince this sector.</p>
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		<title>By: james</title>
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		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:17:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phone book is a waste of resources - but companies will keep publishment them as their ad rates are based on the inflated circulation numbers - not counting the thousands of books that make a beeline for the dumpster upon arrival.

Also the NUMBER of companies making deliveries each year is insane.  One would be ok - but I get 4-5 a year - plus the little neighborhood books too.

visit Yellowpagesgoesgreen.com for info on how to opt out - its a good site.

here&#039;s my collection of articles ridiculing this ancient technology:

http://www.futuregringo.com/index.php/2008/11/08/the-life-of-a-phone-book/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phone book is a waste of resources &#8211; but companies will keep publishment them as their ad rates are based on the inflated circulation numbers &#8211; not counting the thousands of books that make a beeline for the dumpster upon arrival.</p>
<p>Also the NUMBER of companies making deliveries each year is insane.  One would be ok &#8211; but I get 4-5 a year &#8211; plus the little neighborhood books too.</p>
<p>visit Yellowpagesgoesgreen.com for info on how to opt out &#8211; its a good site.</p>
<p>here&#8217;s my collection of articles ridiculing this ancient technology:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.futuregringo.com/index.php/2008/11/08/the-life-of-a-phone-book/" rel="nofollow">http://www.futuregringo.com/index.php/2008/11/08/the-life-of-a-phone-book/</a></p>
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		<title>By: e Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>e Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark 

Interesting the online properties you mentioned.  You missed one of the most significant ....trader.ca...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark </p>
<p>Interesting the online properties you mentioned.  You missed one of the most significant &#8230;.trader.ca&#8230;</p>
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