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	<title>Comments on: How Badly Will Chrome Hurt Firefox?</title>
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	<description>Insight and Analysis from North of the Border</description>
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		<title>By: chrome stats</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-107399</link>
		<dc:creator>chrome stats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among visitors to my Chrome site, looks like Google Chrome is slowly encroaching on poor Firefox.  The little fox that captured our hearts circling the Globe is now getting stomped by the big G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among visitors to my Chrome site, looks like Google Chrome is slowly encroaching on poor Firefox.  The little fox that captured our hearts circling the Globe is now getting stomped by the big G.</p>
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		<title>By: chrome stats</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-107394</link>
		<dc:creator>chrome stats</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Among visitors to my Chrome site, looks like Google Chrome is slowly encroaching on poor Firefox.  The little fox that captured our attention circling the Globe is now getting chomped by the big G.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Among visitors to my Chrome site, looks like Google Chrome is slowly encroaching on poor Firefox.  The little fox that captured our attention circling the Globe is now getting chomped by the big G.</p>
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		<title>By: Google Chrome Manual &#124; BPWrap</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-105097</link>
		<dc:creator>Google Chrome Manual &#124; BPWrap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 18:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] after the launch there was an initial flurry of interest. Mark Evans commented that a number of people had checked it out with some like Walter Mossberg liking it and others like [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Martyr2</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100841</link>
		<dc:creator>Martyr2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I am hearing, from my neck of the woods in programming, that while everyone likes Chrome so far, they are all weary to switch from Firefox until Chrome can really put out some great addons. A lot of FireFox users love their addons and themes and until Chrome can put some out there, there is no reason to switch completely. It's a novelty at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I am hearing, from my neck of the woods in programming, that while everyone likes Chrome so far, they are all weary to switch from Firefox until Chrome can really put out some great addons. A lot of FireFox users love their addons and themes and until Chrome can put some out there, there is no reason to switch completely. It&#8217;s a novelty at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100812</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:27:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave:

I don't think it's a stupid poll but I do agree that adding a time element is a good ideas. Thanks for the suggestion - the poll has now been updated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave:</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a stupid poll but I do agree that adding a time element is a good ideas. Thanks for the suggestion - the poll has now been updated.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100811</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google seems to roll out "big" things then lets them flail in the breeze.  Gchat, Grandcentral etc., I don't see Chrome being any different.  It takes tremendous focus and a big dedicated team to 'do' a browser.   If anything I see FF getting better by using some of the Google source to help with memory footprint etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google seems to roll out &#8220;big&#8221; things then lets them flail in the breeze.  Gchat, Grandcentral etc., I don&#8217;t see Chrome being any different.  It takes tremendous focus and a big dedicated team to &#8216;do&#8217; a browser.   If anything I see FF getting better by using some of the Google source to help with memory footprint etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100810</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Great post.  My feeling is that a lot of Firefox users made the switch because of the ability to use add-ons.  I am not even going to bother downloading Chrome until it can support these.  So short term, probably little impact.  But longer term ... whole different argument.  Google controls so many popular web applications that they will have a leg up on any other browser in terms of smooth integration.  

My bet is that this will be huge in 2 years.  Remember how MSFT killed Netscape?  I think this is the open-source equivalent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Great post.  My feeling is that a lot of Firefox users made the switch because of the ability to use add-ons.  I am not even going to bother downloading Chrome until it can support these.  So short term, probably little impact.  But longer term &#8230; whole different argument.  Google controls so many popular web applications that they will have a leg up on any other browser in terms of smooth integration.  </p>
<p>My bet is that this will be huge in 2 years.  Remember how MSFT killed Netscape?  I think this is the open-source equivalent.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100802</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stupid poll. How Much of the Browser Market Will Chrome Attract &lt;b&gt;By What Date&lt;/b&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stupid poll. How Much of the Browser Market Will Chrome Attract <b>By What Date</b>?</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Kuplens-Ewart</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100801</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Kuplens-Ewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:25:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's clear that Chrome (at least at this stage) is more an engineering proof-of-concept and vehicle for introducing some revised thinking and a new way of handling JavasScript.

There are sufficient UI oddities that will cause Chrome (in its current state) to be either loathed by the mass market or loved. Confusing iconography (a 'new page/document' icon) munges a selection of the contents of standard application menus (new/edit/view commands) into one contextual dialog pulldown, some items of which could arguably best live in the 'wrench' menu and vice versa.

Given the type of people raving about it, Chrome overall appears to be designed to suit a very different audience: short-sighted casual users. With its relatively giant fonts particularly in the search bar, but also the default type scaling in page content, to me the browser feels graphically oversized and clunky.

Tabs within the window frame are quite elegant, may be arguably suitable within the Windows world where the space is reserved for the process/application name + close commands but certainly out of place (and not at all trivial to implement) in Apple's OS X. That said, kudos to Google's engineers for solving the problem of indicating that the hide, zoom, and close buttons at top-right are tied to the Chrome parent process and will exit all tab processes.

I expect Google will see a large spike of new users this week followed by a substantial drop in the geek world. Corporate and baby-boomer home users will be this browser's long-term bread and butter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear that Chrome (at least at this stage) is more an engineering proof-of-concept and vehicle for introducing some revised thinking and a new way of handling JavasScript.</p>
<p>There are sufficient UI oddities that will cause Chrome (in its current state) to be either loathed by the mass market or loved. Confusing iconography (a &#8216;new page/document&#8217; icon) munges a selection of the contents of standard application menus (new/edit/view commands) into one contextual dialog pulldown, some items of which could arguably best live in the &#8216;wrench&#8217; menu and vice versa.</p>
<p>Given the type of people raving about it, Chrome overall appears to be designed to suit a very different audience: short-sighted casual users. With its relatively giant fonts particularly in the search bar, but also the default type scaling in page content, to me the browser feels graphically oversized and clunky.</p>
<p>Tabs within the window frame are quite elegant, may be arguably suitable within the Windows world where the space is reserved for the process/application name + close commands but certainly out of place (and not at all trivial to implement) in Apple&#8217;s OS X. That said, kudos to Google&#8217;s engineers for solving the problem of indicating that the hide, zoom, and close buttons at top-right are tied to the Chrome parent process and will exit all tab processes.</p>
<p>I expect Google will see a large spike of new users this week followed by a substantial drop in the geek world. Corporate and baby-boomer home users will be this browser&#8217;s long-term bread and butter.</p>
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		<title>By: Phil</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/09/03/how-badly-will-chrome-hurt-firefox/comment-page-1/#comment-100796</link>
		<dc:creator>Phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Sep 2008 11:44:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit I was a little sleepy last night...I got word of the download and installed it, but wondered why Firefox was releasing a new browser with only a few new mods.  It works well out-of-the-box and the new tab function is nice.  I only realized this morning that I had installed a browser from Google.  I got duped.  I'm not certain what this says about me, the internet or the exploitation of subconscious marketing by Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit I was a little sleepy last night&#8230;I got word of the download and installed it, but wondered why Firefox was releasing a new browser with only a few new mods.  It works well out-of-the-box and the new tab function is nice.  I only realized this morning that I had installed a browser from Google.  I got duped.  I&#8217;m not certain what this says about me, the internet or the exploitation of subconscious marketing by Google.</p>
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