Comments on: Net Neutrality Finally Rears Ugly Head in Canada

By: Net Neutrality | Blogging Idol

Net Neutrality | Blogging Idol — Thu, 05 Jun 2008 20:42:02 +0000

[...] : Mark Evans actually has a great post on the topic of Net Neutrality both from a wired and wireless perspective. Related [...]

By: Linky Goodness, June 2

Linky Goodness, June 2 — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 21:14:47 +0000

[...] It’s not just the US fighting this battle:Net Neutrality Finally Rears Ugly Head in Canada [...]

By: darren

darren — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:28:02 +0000

standard economic theory suggets that government intervention is required in scenarios of market failure, or a non efficient market … setting aside the specific contextual reason for their existence in this case, oligopolies are one manifestation of market failure … in the case of Bell and Rogers having virtual domination over the last mile is tantamount to market failure and therefore justifies a level of government intervention to ward of the potential for future abuses. At its heart it’s no different than the economic anecdote of the public park.

By: Josep

Josep — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 07:21:47 +0000

Hi there,

What about private regulation led by WIPO and national author right holders organisations that the more and more are cutting internet up into pieces? you cannot access hulu, bbc’s iplayer, pandora, etc…

Yours,

By: jules

jules — Mon, 02 Jun 2008 01:55:24 +0000

Hey there Matt and Jim - there’s a fairly significant difference between traffic shaping and blocking the DNS for a specific site I think hind-sight is 2020 with regards to the TELUS decision to block DNS and the backlash surrounding the union websites access.

By: matt roberts

matt roberts — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:33:27 +0000

Jules - Telus is traffic shaping and back in 2005 they effectively started the Net Neutrality debate by blocking websites related to workers that were on strike against it.

Mark - Inukshuk is probably the silliest example you could have chosen. It never got anywhere before it was purchased - the group was going to invest what about $135-million to build a nation-wide network? please.

Also, calling it a ‘nation wide’ anything is a bit much - when purchased, it serviced perhaps 3 small areas. Craig McCaw, probably the only person in North America who would create a company like this, gave up on it precisely because the WiMAX technology he wanted to use has taken for ever to mature. EVen he’s partnered with Sprint to make this come about in the US. It just never would have flown, neither MTS nor Allstream had the depth to make it happen. This has nothing to do with Net Neutrality. Just plain old economics.

By: Jim

Jim — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 13:02:58 +0000

Comment on Jules’ comment above: To me Telus was the worst offender - they actually blocked some of their customers from viewing websites which they didn’t want them to see (in this case their customers were their own striking employees - but nevertheless Telus’s actions were rediculous.)
http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/07/24/telus-sites050724.html

By: rogers is killing innovation

rogers is killing innovation — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 04:55:48 +0000

ISPs are recording record profits and the consumers in Canada are suffering…it feels like we are living in the 3rd world with Rogers as our dictator, seen your Rogers wireless bell this month yet?

By: jules

jules — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 03:05:12 +0000

Hey there Mark - I don’t know that you want to paint TELUS with the same brush as Bell and Rogers - they haven’t done any traffic shaping on either consumer or wholesale internet services.

cheers,
jules

By: Beth

Beth — Sun, 01 Jun 2008 01:02:14 +0000

Net neutrality what about FALSE ADVERTISING cough LYING. I hope the class action suit against Bell teaches them a lesson by hurting their pocket book. See http://www.electronista.com/articles/08/05/30/bell.can.throttling.suit/

My brother canceled his Sympatico account and switched to a company who wasn’t throttling and it was cheaper. Too bad I can’t remember their name.