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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/17/the-web-as-we-know-it-is-dying/#comment-62795</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 10:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,

Sorry you ran into problems. You can always try to click on the FeedBurner chicklet if the RSS widget doesn't work.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>Sorry you ran into problems. You can always try to click on the FeedBurner chicklet if the RSS widget doesn&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/17/the-web-as-we-know-it-is-dying/#comment-62720</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In an attempt to subscribe to your blog feed with Google Reader, I an "error occurred..." possibly proving your point. The Interwebs are all Cobwebby today. Cruftolicious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In an attempt to subscribe to your blog feed with Google Reader, I an &#8220;error occurred&#8230;&#8221; possibly proving your point. The Interwebs are all Cobwebby today. Cruftolicious.</p>
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		<title>By: WinExtra &#187; From the Pipeline - 5.17.08</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/17/the-web-as-we-know-it-is-dying/#comment-62650</link>
		<dc:creator>WinExtra &#187; From the Pipeline - 5.17.08</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 18:40:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The Web As We Know It is Dying :: Mark Evans - this is a post everyone should grab a coffee and sit down and read. Times change and so will the net as we know it - the question is how. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Web As We Know It is Dying :: Mark Evans - this is a post everyone should grab a coffee and sit down and read. Times change and so will the net as we know it - the question is how. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/05/17/the-web-as-we-know-it-is-dying/#comment-62433</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 13:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wayne, don't hold your breath...the rights situation is a mess, but for largely good reasons.  You have to remember that the companies that commission the content and distribute it in the US, typically have little brand presence internationally.  NBC, CBS, etc. have no desire to keep their programs on their website internationally, because who'd go see them?  They'd rather license these rights to the local broadcaster who has the audience, marketing machine, and most importantly, ad sales team to do it properly.  

We sometimes lose this in Canada because we we receive US broadcast signals (from Buffalo, Seattle, etc) in addition to our local ones, so we're more familiar with the originating broadcast brand than most of the world.  But the reason we don't get this content is largely because CTV, Global, etc. haven't paid for the rights.  They're now starting to...CTV has signed the first significant deal for this...but it's a purely economic proposition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wayne, don&#8217;t hold your breath&#8230;the rights situation is a mess, but for largely good reasons.  You have to remember that the companies that commission the content and distribute it in the US, typically have little brand presence internationally.  NBC, CBS, etc. have no desire to keep their programs on their website internationally, because who&#8217;d go see them?  They&#8217;d rather license these rights to the local broadcaster who has the audience, marketing machine, and most importantly, ad sales team to do it properly.  </p>
<p>We sometimes lose this in Canada because we we receive US broadcast signals (from Buffalo, Seattle, etc) in addition to our local ones, so we&#8217;re more familiar with the originating broadcast brand than most of the world.  But the reason we don&#8217;t get this content is largely because CTV, Global, etc. haven&#8217;t paid for the rights.  They&#8217;re now starting to&#8230;CTV has signed the first significant deal for this&#8230;but it&#8217;s a purely economic proposition.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 02:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one other thing which has started to occur on the web in the last couple of years is the erection of national borders.  The first W of WWW is increasingly inaccurate as more content is only availabe to people in a certain country.  This is particularly the case for media content - Canadians cannot access US shows on network web sites, iTunes Store, etc.  It is time that the creators of this content rethought their licensing and started to use a global rather than a national model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one other thing which has started to occur on the web in the last couple of years is the erection of national borders.  The first W of WWW is increasingly inaccurate as more content is only availabe to people in a certain country.  This is particularly the case for media content - Canadians cannot access US shows on network web sites, iTunes Store, etc.  It is time that the creators of this content rethought their licensing and started to use a global rather than a national model.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 15:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Thanks for the comment and insight. You're right, it is multi-faceted, complex issue with different players and interests intimately and actively involved. 

What I would hate to see happen is the Web controlled to the point where the innovation and joie de vivre disappears. It's been a fascinating ride so far, and it will be interesting to see how it evolves over the next few years.

Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and insight. You&#8217;re right, it is multi-faceted, complex issue with different players and interests intimately and actively involved. </p>
<p>What I would hate to see happen is the Web controlled to the point where the innovation and joie de vivre disappears. It&#8217;s been a fascinating ride so far, and it will be interesting to see how it evolves over the next few years.</p>
<p>Mark</p>
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		<title>By: Stephe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Erik's comments make a lot of sense. I particularly like the idea of opening our telco landscape to foreign entrants. We'd see how long bandwidth caps and other consumer unfriendly practices would last in a world with REAL competition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Erik&#8217;s comments make a lot of sense. I particularly like the idea of opening our telco landscape to foreign entrants. We&#8217;d see how long bandwidth caps and other consumer unfriendly practices would last in a world with REAL competition.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 14:03:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark, I think you're blurring 3 separate issues because they rely today on the same technology infrastructure (packet inspection).

Net neutrality is primarily an issue between ISP's and publishers (writ large).  It's an extremely important one, in the same way that regulation of the broadcast airwaves has been an important one for the last 60 years, because it dictates who can get what information to whom.  It's an area where market power can have an adverse affect on what we normally consider the basic tenets of a free society.  But it's quite a bit more complicated than is often presented by EFF and other, for the simple reason that the costs of ensuring those freedoms are not equally spread among market participants.  Technologies like P2P skew the costs entirely in the ISP's direction, almost completely removing any delivery costs the publishers once bore (i.e. for CDN's)


Network Utilization Management is primarily an issue between ISP's and their customers.  It's certainly debatable that  ISP's are gouging customers at the same time as they're scaling back service (unlimited --&#62; limited).  Personally, as a consumer, I don't think the value proposition is all that skewed, but ultimately, competition should take care of much of this issue.  Sure, we don't have competition as robust as I'd like, but we're a country of 11M households, and given the network costs involved, it's unreasonable to expect much more than we've got.  The fact that most markets do have 2 players is something we couldn't always say.  But if you do want to spur more competition, open up the market to foreign entrants...I'm sure Sprint/Clearwire would love to rollout WiMax in Toronto, and it would end the cozy relationships our entrenched players have with the regulators.

Finally, there's the issue of privacy, which has recently jumped a level.  Charter's announcement is abhorrent to me, as is, to a lesser extent, Rogers taking over my browser to deliver system messages (though this is probably just intrusive, rather than a violation of privacy) .  Canadian ISP's have traditionally been more protective of customer privacy than their US counterparts (AT&#38;T probably being the most obvious example).  For example, they've been loathe to cooperate with the music industry in tracking down file sharers, typically doing so only with a court order.  But if Charter shows they're money in violating our privacy, that will change in a heartbeat.  You've rightly pointed out that our regulator is clueless and hamfisted, and I have no faith whatsoever that they'll get out in front of this issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, I think you&#8217;re blurring 3 separate issues because they rely today on the same technology infrastructure (packet inspection).</p>
<p>Net neutrality is primarily an issue between ISP&#8217;s and publishers (writ large).  It&#8217;s an extremely important one, in the same way that regulation of the broadcast airwaves has been an important one for the last 60 years, because it dictates who can get what information to whom.  It&#8217;s an area where market power can have an adverse affect on what we normally consider the basic tenets of a free society.  But it&#8217;s quite a bit more complicated than is often presented by EFF and other, for the simple reason that the costs of ensuring those freedoms are not equally spread among market participants.  Technologies like P2P skew the costs entirely in the ISP&#8217;s direction, almost completely removing any delivery costs the publishers once bore (i.e. for CDN&#8217;s)</p>
<p>Network Utilization Management is primarily an issue between ISP&#8217;s and their customers.  It&#8217;s certainly debatable that  ISP&#8217;s are gouging customers at the same time as they&#8217;re scaling back service (unlimited &#8211;&gt; limited).  Personally, as a consumer, I don&#8217;t think the value proposition is all that skewed, but ultimately, competition should take care of much of this issue.  Sure, we don&#8217;t have competition as robust as I&#8217;d like, but we&#8217;re a country of 11M households, and given the network costs involved, it&#8217;s unreasonable to expect much more than we&#8217;ve got.  The fact that most markets do have 2 players is something we couldn&#8217;t always say.  But if you do want to spur more competition, open up the market to foreign entrants&#8230;I&#8217;m sure Sprint/Clearwire would love to rollout WiMax in Toronto, and it would end the cozy relationships our entrenched players have with the regulators.</p>
<p>Finally, there&#8217;s the issue of privacy, which has recently jumped a level.  Charter&#8217;s announcement is abhorrent to me, as is, to a lesser extent, Rogers taking over my browser to deliver system messages (though this is probably just intrusive, rather than a violation of privacy) .  Canadian ISP&#8217;s have traditionally been more protective of customer privacy than their US counterparts (AT&amp;T probably being the most obvious example).  For example, they&#8217;ve been loathe to cooperate with the music industry in tracking down file sharers, typically doing so only with a court order.  But if Charter shows they&#8217;re money in violating our privacy, that will change in a heartbeat.  You&#8217;ve rightly pointed out that our regulator is clueless and hamfisted, and I have no faith whatsoever that they&#8217;ll get out in front of this issue.</p>
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