Comments on: High-Speed Internet = High Prices in Canada http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/ Insight and Analysis from North of the Border Thu, 18 Mar 2010 16:49:04 +0000 hourly 1 By: Sam http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-193540 Sam Sun, 03 Jan 2010 09:09:11 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-193540 Business is business. If I were Rogers/Bell/Telus, I will set the same prices. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT'S FAULT. CRTC never did anything to make more carriers to compete. Business is business. If I were Rogers/Bell/Telus, I will set the same prices. THIS IS THE GOVERNMENT'S FAULT. CRTC never did anything to make more carriers to compete.

]]> By: Rickster http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-187660 Rickster Fri, 03 Jul 2009 13:44:42 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-187660 Canada is a HIGH "taxing" country -basically, thats what our government does. We would be dillusional as Canadians if we thought our own Canadian gov't and their best freind's , our very own telecom-Duopoly-Pirates themselves, weren't RIPPING us off every day. Its obvisouly in "their" best interests, and ya they couldn'y give a hoot about the Canadian Consumers' -except, that they consume themselves. At one time we may have been Beavers, but now sadly we're more like Lemmings,-grudgingly agreeing to these ever higher (with ever-worse service) monthly Internet rates from nothing less than a totalitarian telecom corporate canadian dictatorship. It is disgusting, these same so-called Canadian corporations open up "sweat" shops in poorer 3rd-world countries to pocket even more "illegal" profits at tremendous Canadian job losses. BUT, just you or me try to work in one of these countries and our own Canadian government punishes us by TAXING us even more. -ya you know exactly what I mean. ! Save for a few real Canadians' left, the rest of us deserve what we got -we voted for them ALL, and bottom-line we don't do a thing about it, except complain politely like Lemmings off a cliff. :) wanna get off the treadmill ?, maybe these are a start. <a href="http://netneutrality.ca" target="_blank">http://netneutrality.ca</a> <a href="http://saveournet.ca" target="_blank">http://saveournet.ca</a> Canada is a HIGH "taxing" country -basically, thats what our government does.
We would be dillusional as Canadians if we thought our own Canadian gov't and their best freind's , our very own telecom-Duopoly-Pirates themselves, weren't RIPPING us off every day.
Its obvisouly in "their" best interests, and ya they couldn'y give a hoot about the Canadian Consumers' -except, that they consume themselves.

At one time we may have been Beavers, but now sadly we're more like Lemmings,-grudgingly agreeing to these ever higher (with ever-worse service) monthly Internet rates from nothing less than a totalitarian telecom corporate canadian dictatorship.

It is disgusting, these same so-called Canadian corporations open up "sweat" shops in poorer 3rd-world countries to pocket even more "illegal" profits at tremendous Canadian job losses.
BUT, just you or me try to work in one of these countries and our own Canadian government punishes us by TAXING us even more. -ya you know exactly what I mean. !

Save for a few real Canadians' left, the rest of us deserve what we got -we voted for them ALL, and bottom-line we don't do a thing about it, except complain politely like Lemmings off a cliff. :)

wanna get off the treadmill ?, maybe these are a start.
http://netneutrality.ca
http://saveournet.ca

]]> By: William Smith http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-184229 William Smith Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:03:13 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-184229 The ISP's are using the same pricing model as Canadian wireless providors, treat the essential technology (high speed internet is becoming essential for future economic prosperity) as a luxury and price accordingly. As long as current delivery model exists, this situation will not change. The ISP's are using the same pricing model as Canadian wireless providors, treat the essential technology (high speed internet is becoming essential for future economic prosperity) as a luxury and price accordingly. As long as current delivery model exists, this situation will not change.

]]> By: Bryan http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-161236 Bryan Fri, 13 Feb 2009 04:03:57 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-161236 Here is what I did--I told them today to downgrade me from Extreme to Express. Instead of downloading at 1MB/s, which I never did since they throttle, I will download from now on at 700KB/s. The cap is same to me--max $25 on top a month. Basically, I want to thank Rogers for making me do the math and making me save $10 a month from now on. THANK YOU ROGERS!!! Here is what I did–I told them today to downgrade me from Extreme to Express. Instead of downloading at 1MB/s, which I never did since they throttle, I will download from now on at 700KB/s. The cap is same to me–max $25 on top a month. Basically, I want to thank Rogers for making me do the math and making me save $10 a month from now on. THANK YOU ROGERS!!!

]]> By: Snowalker http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-68027 Snowalker Sat, 07 Jun 2008 14:55:16 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-68027 Hi, I am on rogers from nov 07 and I'm very disappointed about them: 1. bad customer service (it was more then 24h, maybe 48h spent waiting at the phone and talking with an operator, in 6 months) 2. right now is a download limit (60giga) and it wasn't from the beginning, from that time when I choose Rogers, or whatever wasn't specified in the rogers offer... 3. very slow upload 4. they has put on my bill services that I never chose before (in 2 months I payed more than $200, and the regulary bill is around $100...) 5. there is an option they can take the money directly from my visa account, I've select this bills payment option and they never send to me a bill, through my mail. When a was to the bank they told me that I need to talk with Rogers if I want to change the payment method. Wtf? It's my bank account and I expect to have total access to. ...and so on, there are many more problems with rogers internet provider Hi,
I am on rogers from nov 07 and I’m very disappointed about them:
1. bad customer service (it was more then 24h, maybe 48h spent waiting at the phone and talking with an operator, in 6 months)
2. right now is a download limit (60giga) and it wasn’t from the beginning, from that time when I choose Rogers, or whatever wasn’t specified in the rogers offer…
3. very slow upload
4. they has put on my bill services that I never chose before (in 2 months I payed more than $200, and the regulary bill is around $100…)
5. there is an option they can take the money directly from my visa account, I’ve select this bills payment option and they never send to me a bill, through my mail. When a was to the bank they told me that I need to talk with Rogers if I want to change the payment method. Wtf? It’s my bank account and I expect to have total access to.
…and so on, there are many more problems with rogers internet provider

]]> By: A Gal http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-64184 A Gal Mon, 26 May 2008 01:08:36 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-64184 OK let's really look at this issue. I personally have been looking for hi-speed internet for my small business. Here in Edmonton Telus is the bully. Several years back, I had them hook-up phone service...I ran top of the line networking, hi-speed, etc, wire in my building. I switched from them a year later to save 33% on 3 lines. Turns out, I can get hi-speed from the little guy but Telus WILL NOT give me dsl access on my lines unless they are providing the line service. Translated, this means I have to give up my 33% savings and they now want over $100 more than my other provider to get hi-speed with my business lines. Absolutely ridiculous. The second an internet company sees 'business' they automatically charge at least 100% more! To tell you the truth, I use my home hi-speed way more than at work soooo why the high prices...not that I'm getting any deal at home either $41.95..I see the prices for hi-speed in the states being $19.99 WHY? The bottom line of profit..period. OK let’s really look at this issue. I personally have been looking for hi-speed internet for my small business. Here in Edmonton Telus is the bully. Several years back, I had them hook-up phone service…I ran top of the line networking, hi-speed, etc, wire in my building. I switched from them a year later to save 33% on 3 lines. Turns out, I can get hi-speed from the little guy but Telus WILL NOT give me dsl access on my lines unless they are providing the line service. Translated, this means I have to give up my 33% savings and they now want over $100 more than my other provider to get hi-speed with my business lines. Absolutely ridiculous. The second an internet company sees ‘business’ they automatically charge at least 100% more! To tell you the truth, I use my home hi-speed way more than at work soooo why the high prices…not that I’m getting any deal at home either $41.95..I see the prices for hi-speed in the states being $19.99 WHY? The bottom line of profit..period.

]]> By: Phil Brown http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-49949 Phil Brown Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:08:06 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-49949 Here in Victoria we have Shaw inflicted on us instead of Rogers but the same BS applies. As for the comments asking us to please give the poor little old cable company a break.........I would bear in mind that it is a very common practice for employees of companies to be "encouraged" to respond online to name and shame blogs, etc. My sister works for Shaw Cable here and although I don't believe she has been encouraged by them to pose as a satisfied customer, still the brainwashing is something else. My sister is not an untelligent woman but hearing her automatically trot out the company line whenever they are criticised I can understand what a short step it would be to an online crusade posing as a satisfied customer. Fact: companies are in business to make profits, the bigger they get, the less realistic competition, the greater the profit maximisation. Value for money, customer service, fairness do NOT enter into it at all. They don't fatten the bottom line. That is the free enterprise facts of life, whether there is a better alternative or not is another subject that I'm not getting into. Here in Victoria we have Shaw inflicted on us instead of Rogers but the same BS applies. As for the comments asking us to please give the poor little old cable company a break………I would bear in mind that it is a very common practice for employees of companies to be “encouraged” to respond online to name and shame blogs, etc.
My sister works for Shaw Cable here and although I don’t believe she has been encouraged by them to pose as a satisfied customer, still the brainwashing is something else. My sister is not an untelligent woman but hearing her automatically trot out the company line whenever they are criticised I can understand what a short step it would be to an online crusade posing as a satisfied customer.
Fact: companies are in business to make profits, the bigger they get, the less realistic competition, the greater the profit maximisation. Value for money, customer service, fairness do NOT enter into it at all. They don’t fatten the bottom line. That is the free enterprise facts of life, whether there is a better alternative or not is another subject that I’m not getting into.

]]> By: Canada: Telecommunications blackhole « Executive Summary http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-39739 Canada: Telecommunications blackhole « Executive Summary Wed, 23 Jan 2008 08:17:59 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-39739 [...] of its contemporaries and actually increasing prices. Also see Mark Evan’s blog for a good piece on [...] [...] of its contemporaries and actually increasing prices. Also see Mark Evan’s blog for a good piece on [...]

]]> By: E Guy http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-37884 E Guy Thu, 17 Jan 2008 17:39:39 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-37884 There is too little competition in Canada and Roger's position on a variety of issues illustrates a disadvantage for Canadians: Why is there a Rogers fee for Tivo? Why do I need a Rogers box for HD content (both a Rogers and regulatory issue - somewhat intertwined). etc. Rogers makes an inordinate amount of money for a satisfactory service and their excessive returns are not commensurate with their products and services. It seems pretty clear that Rogers would be acting differently if there was viable strong competitors. There aren't and consumers, as a result, suffer. Too bad really. There is too little competition in Canada and Roger’s position on a variety of issues illustrates a disadvantage for Canadians:

Why is there a Rogers fee for Tivo?
Why do I need a Rogers box for HD content (both a Rogers and regulatory issue – somewhat intertwined).
etc.

Rogers makes an inordinate amount of money for a satisfactory service and their excessive returns are not commensurate with their products and services. It seems pretty clear that Rogers would be acting differently if there was viable strong competitors. There aren’t and consumers, as a result, suffer. Too bad really.

]]> By: Jim http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-36903 Jim Sun, 13 Jan 2008 12:13:02 +0000 http://www.markevanstech.com/2008/01/12/high-speed-internet-high-prices-in-canada/#comment-36903 Just a note to add to Erik's comments. Last summer Rogers increased the download speeds from 6 Mpbs to 8 Mbps with no rate increase. So, relative to a year ago we have seen a 67% speed increase for a 3.6% price increase. Just a note to add to Erik’s comments. Last summer Rogers increased the download speeds from 6 Mpbs to 8 Mbps with no rate increase. So, relative to a year ago we have seen a 67% speed increase for a 3.6% price increase.

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