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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-267780</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Mar 2011 14:50:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can sympathize with your plight, as I could with anyone who&#039;s finding it harder to make a living in the way they&#039;re accustomed. It&#039;s unfortunate.

But where do you get off thinking you can demand people do things they don&#039;t want to do so that you can make more money...in a way that is quite frankly pretty cushy and painless compared to what most people in the world do to support themselves and their families?

I&#039;d like to make easy money too, and I don&#039;t begrudge anyone who&#039;s able to do it successfully...but what bothers me is the sense of entitlement. What makes you think anyone owes you a living--and this kind of living in particular? If you think no one should be able to view your content without paying for the privilege, then make a subscription website, or sell ebooks.

Businesses get money by giving people what they want and need in exchange. You&#039;re insisting that people take what they don&#039;t want so that you can get money from advertisers, who aren&#039;t getting anything in return, since the people who block the ads probably wouldn&#039;t buy the advertised products/services anyway. If you insist on doing business that way, you&#039;ll probably fail, and you&#039;ll deserve to. Demanding that consumers act in ways that will support your preferred business model is just childish and futile.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can sympathize with your plight, as I could with anyone who&#8217;s finding it harder to make a living in the way they&#8217;re accustomed. It&#8217;s unfortunate.</p>
<p>But where do you get off thinking you can demand people do things they don&#8217;t want to do so that you can make more money&#8230;in a way that is quite frankly pretty cushy and painless compared to what most people in the world do to support themselves and their families?</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to make easy money too, and I don&#8217;t begrudge anyone who&#8217;s able to do it successfully&#8230;but what bothers me is the sense of entitlement. What makes you think anyone owes you a living&#8211;and this kind of living in particular? If you think no one should be able to view your content without paying for the privilege, then make a subscription website, or sell ebooks.</p>
<p>Businesses get money by giving people what they want and need in exchange. You&#8217;re insisting that people take what they don&#8217;t want so that you can get money from advertisers, who aren&#8217;t getting anything in return, since the people who block the ads probably wouldn&#8217;t buy the advertised products/services anyway. If you insist on doing business that way, you&#8217;ll probably fail, and you&#8217;ll deserve to. Demanding that consumers act in ways that will support your preferred business model is just childish and futile.</p>
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		<title>By: matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 08:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its exactly that, sport... People are morons and most don&#039;t even know about AdBlock Plus, never mind being able to install it. Some people even still are using IE6 because they&#039;re to clueless to upgrade. Marketshare of Firefox is only about 24% and seems pretty stable. So I don&#039;t think you doom and gloom about 99,9999% whatever will come about anytime soon. So you go ahead and click away all the popups and spyware if that floats your boat. Me, I&#039;ll be surfing the seas without the sharks around me... Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its exactly that, sport&#8230; People are morons and most don&#8217;t even know about AdBlock Plus, never mind being able to install it. Some people even still are using IE6 because they&#8217;re to clueless to upgrade. Marketshare of Firefox is only about 24% and seems pretty stable. So I don&#8217;t think you doom and gloom about 99,9999% whatever will come about anytime soon. So you go ahead and click away all the popups and spyware if that floats your boat. Me, I&#8217;ll be surfing the seas without the sharks around me&#8230; Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: dave1sfx</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-228634</link>
		<dc:creator>dave1sfx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Oct 2010 04:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People aren&#039;t getting this right:  Just because Adblock keeps users from seeing the ads doesn&#039;t mean that the companies don&#039;t get revenue from the ads.  Basically, everyone wins:  The users don&#039;t see the annoying ads, and the companies still get revenue, regardless of people using Adblock or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People aren&#8217;t getting this right:  Just because Adblock keeps users from seeing the ads doesn&#8217;t mean that the companies don&#8217;t get revenue from the ads.  Basically, everyone wins:  The users don&#8217;t see the annoying ads, and the companies still get revenue, regardless of people using Adblock or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Adblock is &#8220;evil&#8221;: balderdash! Ad servers are evil: privacy-rape &#171; Seth Wisely said</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adblock is &#8220;evil&#8221;: balderdash! Ad servers are evil: privacy-rape &#171; Seth Wisely said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 16:07:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adblock is &#8220;evil&#8221;: balderdash &#171; Seth Wisely said</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adblock is &#8220;evil&#8221;: balderdash &#171; Seth Wisely said</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Oct 2010 15:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Lord Stansted</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-215061</link>
		<dc:creator>Lord Stansted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:15:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use adblock+, bettery privacy, ghosty and a cgi-proxy. I must be the devil himself. Get a life.</description>
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		<title>By: Smoke</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-208271</link>
		<dc:creator>Smoke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 22:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, ads got what they had coming..

The problem is the annoying ads, ads that redirect, install bs software, and all kinds of bad stuff.. You should have been more respectful of the end user, and it would have never become an issue.

You create a problem, then want to complain when ppl strike back, I&#039;ve never once tried to block TV ads, why, because they don&#039;t hijack my fucking tv.. I watch tv at Hulu.com, and don&#039;t block their ads either, because they don&#039;t fuck with me..

Also, enough excuses, most of you run hobby sites and expect us to pay for them, because you share them, guess what, people have shared free shit with you for ages, like HTML, Java, C#, Linux, etc, etc, you get free shit all the time, but can&#039;t reciprocate?

You&#039;re greedy hypocrites, I write freeware applications all the time, free games, free lots of stuff, I give back to the community, what do you do?

I don&#039;t owe you jack shit, if I support a site it&#039;s because they deserve it, you want support earn it, you aren&#039;t owed shit, got a problem with that, fuck off..

Now if you want to fix the problem, stop the BS ads, and do them proper, don&#039;t hijack my browser, don&#039;t install viri, don&#039;t install software without telling me about it, don&#039;t be a dick, I guess is the point..

Dicks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, ads got what they had coming..</p>
<p>The problem is the annoying ads, ads that redirect, install bs software, and all kinds of bad stuff.. You should have been more respectful of the end user, and it would have never become an issue.</p>
<p>You create a problem, then want to complain when ppl strike back, I&#8217;ve never once tried to block TV ads, why, because they don&#8217;t hijack my fucking tv.. I watch tv at Hulu.com, and don&#8217;t block their ads either, because they don&#8217;t fuck with me..</p>
<p>Also, enough excuses, most of you run hobby sites and expect us to pay for them, because you share them, guess what, people have shared free shit with you for ages, like HTML, Java, C#, Linux, etc, etc, you get free shit all the time, but can&#8217;t reciprocate?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re greedy hypocrites, I write freeware applications all the time, free games, free lots of stuff, I give back to the community, what do you do?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t owe you jack shit, if I support a site it&#8217;s because they deserve it, you want support earn it, you aren&#8217;t owed shit, got a problem with that, fuck off..</p>
<p>Now if you want to fix the problem, stop the BS ads, and do them proper, don&#8217;t hijack my browser, don&#8217;t install viri, don&#8217;t install software without telling me about it, don&#8217;t be a dick, I guess is the point..</p>
<p>Dicks.</p>
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		<title>By: chris</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-174578</link>
		<dc:creator>chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 15:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love adblock plus.  I work in online advertising.  Whenever I have to turn adblock plus off to check if our adverts are running it makes me pity people who don&#039;t know about it.  I actively promote it. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love adblock plus.  I work in online advertising.  Whenever I have to turn adblock plus off to check if our adverts are running it makes me pity people who don&#039;t know about it.  I actively promote it.</p>
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		<title>By: Keyser Soze</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2007/09/11/adblock-plus-is-still-evil/comment-page-1/#comment-75108</link>
		<dc:creator>Keyser Soze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 17:50:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey &quot;DUHHH&quot;, 

The Internet was designed around the concept of information exchange, and when sites try to force advertising contents onto *my* computer, I and everyone else have *every right* to block it. Making adblock illegal is no different than someone being harassed because they change the channel, turn off the TV, walk away or fast forward through TIVO every single time they are bombarded with useless content.

The expense of creating a page, registering a domain and uploading it&#039;s content is *paltry* in comparison to national advertising on the radio, TV or newspapers and magazines. Those advertisements are all expenses, and their sales and use are designed to make up for those costs. People know ahead of time that watching a TV show involves commercials, or reading a magazine will involve advertisements tailored for the readers.

Having a business web page *is in and of itself* an advertisement for your good or service. If I am a heating and refrigeration company, I can create a website, be referenced by any search engine...and people will be able to interactively read about everything I have to offer. They, after reading about me, will hire me because of my content. However, in virtually every case where adblock becomes necessary, the website is attempting to *pimp content for other websites* in an attempt to make back some money. In other words, they feel they have the right to take up my bandwidth foisting things I wasn&#039;t looking for or asking for onto a machine they don&#039;t own. They want to take the minor expense of running a website and reverse it from being a small business expense for their good or service into one that becomes a private money-maker off of the bandwidth back of users. That is not possible in other forms of advertisements because they are not interactive. Hence, traditional advertisement patterns have been replaced with aggressive domination of the users they are attempting to sway with their content.

This is not about people hating advertisements. If TV or radio shows had the same equivalent content to advertisement ratios as web sites, there would be about 5 minutes or less of useful content for every hours worth of broadcast. People would simply stop watching TV. 

Companies that have blatantly abused and exhibited hostile patterns of user control are the ones who have just been hit with this broadside shot. Users do NOT have to pensively sit and be forced to waste time and money wading their way through useless content that has been aggressively forced on users. Had companies not taken this abusive stance, then people would not have deemed such a tool necessary.

So before calling the rest of us &quot;f@#%ing idiots&quot; because you are too immature to rationally argue  with the rest of the world that disagrees with you, I suggest you switch to decaf and grow up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey &#8220;DUHHH&#8221;, </p>
<p>The Internet was designed around the concept of information exchange, and when sites try to force advertising contents onto *my* computer, I and everyone else have *every right* to block it. Making adblock illegal is no different than someone being harassed because they change the channel, turn off the TV, walk away or fast forward through TIVO every single time they are bombarded with useless content.</p>
<p>The expense of creating a page, registering a domain and uploading it&#8217;s content is *paltry* in comparison to national advertising on the radio, TV or newspapers and magazines. Those advertisements are all expenses, and their sales and use are designed to make up for those costs. People know ahead of time that watching a TV show involves commercials, or reading a magazine will involve advertisements tailored for the readers.</p>
<p>Having a business web page *is in and of itself* an advertisement for your good or service. If I am a heating and refrigeration company, I can create a website, be referenced by any search engine&#8230;and people will be able to interactively read about everything I have to offer. They, after reading about me, will hire me because of my content. However, in virtually every case where adblock becomes necessary, the website is attempting to *pimp content for other websites* in an attempt to make back some money. In other words, they feel they have the right to take up my bandwidth foisting things I wasn&#8217;t looking for or asking for onto a machine they don&#8217;t own. They want to take the minor expense of running a website and reverse it from being a small business expense for their good or service into one that becomes a private money-maker off of the bandwidth back of users. That is not possible in other forms of advertisements because they are not interactive. Hence, traditional advertisement patterns have been replaced with aggressive domination of the users they are attempting to sway with their content.</p>
<p>This is not about people hating advertisements. If TV or radio shows had the same equivalent content to advertisement ratios as web sites, there would be about 5 minutes or less of useful content for every hours worth of broadcast. People would simply stop watching TV. </p>
<p>Companies that have blatantly abused and exhibited hostile patterns of user control are the ones who have just been hit with this broadside shot. Users do NOT have to pensively sit and be forced to waste time and money wading their way through useless content that has been aggressively forced on users. Had companies not taken this abusive stance, then people would not have deemed such a tool necessary.</p>
<p>So before calling the rest of us &#8220;f@#%ing idiots&#8221; because you are too immature to rationally argue  with the rest of the world that disagrees with you, I suggest you switch to decaf and grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: uhh</title>
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		<dc:creator>uhh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I swear, the dumbest people on the internet seem to be adblock users who can&#039;t figure out why adblock is evil. Of course it&#039;s evil. The only reason 99.999% of big/good websites exist is because the people who devote their lives to creating the content are able to get ad revenue in exchange. If ad revenue disappeared, so would 99.999% of good websites. Newspapers would no longer share their content. Bloggers who copy from newspapers wouldn&#039;t have content anymore unless they were going to just go buy the paper and type the text in. Big blogs would shut down or get much smaller. ESPN.com wouldn&#039;t exist anymore or would be much smaller. I swear, I&#039;ve read a bunch of these sites where adblock users justify their use and I&#039;ve never seen a bigger lack of logic. The only reason X exists is because Y funds it. If you remove Y, then X is screwed. Is that too complicated for you fucking morons? Also, if ads load but you don&#039;t click them, the ad still has value to the advertiser just because even if most people don&#039;t click them, a lot of people still sorta see them out of the corner of their eye. It still has value. But if the ads don&#039;t even load then the ad has literally NO value to the advertiser, and the advertiser will just disappear. If everyone on the web blocked ads, 99.999% of the good big sites on the web would shut down. You fuckiing idiots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I swear, the dumbest people on the internet seem to be adblock users who can&#8217;t figure out why adblock is evil. Of course it&#8217;s evil. The only reason 99.999% of big/good websites exist is because the people who devote their lives to creating the content are able to get ad revenue in exchange. If ad revenue disappeared, so would 99.999% of good websites. Newspapers would no longer share their content. Bloggers who copy from newspapers wouldn&#8217;t have content anymore unless they were going to just go buy the paper and type the text in. Big blogs would shut down or get much smaller. ESPN.com wouldn&#8217;t exist anymore or would be much smaller. I swear, I&#8217;ve read a bunch of these sites where adblock users justify their use and I&#8217;ve never seen a bigger lack of logic. The only reason X exists is because Y funds it. If you remove Y, then X is screwed. Is that too complicated for you fucking morons? Also, if ads load but you don&#8217;t click them, the ad still has value to the advertiser just because even if most people don&#8217;t click them, a lot of people still sorta see them out of the corner of their eye. It still has value. But if the ads don&#8217;t even load then the ad has literally NO value to the advertiser, and the advertiser will just disappear. If everyone on the web blocked ads, 99.999% of the good big sites on the web would shut down. You fuckiing idiots.</p>
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