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	<title>Comments on: Rogers&#39; Telephony Plans: Underwhelming</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2005/06/30/rogers-telephony-plans-underwhelming/#comment-373</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 18:38:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#39;s no real such thing as POTS "from that point on" anymore.  The access and termination points are of course dependent on Rogers and the terminating carrier.
But the in-between part is pretty much a dog&#39;s breakfast, and that goes for Bell POTS, SBC, Rogers, or anyone else.  To understand why, see a minutes trading marketplace like &lt;a href="http://www.arbinet.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;Arbinet&lt;/a&gt;.  A pretty impressive proportion of "POTS" LD traffic was transiting as IP and, in many instances, over the public Internet as of years ago.  And it&#39;s been a long time now that TELUS announced that it had converted its network core to IP.
Fundamentally, what matters is whether the carrier is managing its own traffic on a dedicated network, or whether it&#39;s leaving it up to someone else to deal with.  The latter describes the Internet.  The former describes internal traffic engineering -- IP over ATM over fibre, TDM over ATM over fibre, TDM over frame-relay over satellite, whatever.  "POTS", after all, is not a protocol, only a service specification.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#39;s no real such thing as POTS &#8220;from that point on&#8221; anymore.  The access and termination points are of course dependent on Rogers and the terminating carrier.<br />
But the in-between part is pretty much a dog&#39;s breakfast, and that goes for Bell POTS, SBC, Rogers, or anyone else.  To understand why, see a minutes trading marketplace like <a href="http://www.arbinet.com" rel="nofollow">Arbinet</a>.  A pretty impressive proportion of &#8220;POTS&#8221; LD traffic was transiting as IP and, in many instances, over the public Internet as of years ago.  And it&#39;s been a long time now that TELUS announced that it had converted its network core to IP.<br />
Fundamentally, what matters is whether the carrier is managing its own traffic on a dedicated network, or whether it&#39;s leaving it up to someone else to deal with.  The latter describes the Internet.  The former describes internal traffic engineering &#8212; IP over ATM over fibre, TDM over ATM over fibre, TDM over frame-relay over satellite, whatever.  &#8220;POTS&#8221;, after all, is not a protocol, only a service specification.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 17:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Rogers&#39; new plans are just regular local phone service provided by a cableco, rather than Bell.&lt;/i&gt;
Exactly.
The thing is, they never claimed otherwise.  Some of the reporters have hyped it as a fancy VoIP offering, but Rogers was talking about this for a long time now -- and PacketCable is just the protocol they eventually settled on to implement this.
The fact is, comparing this to access-independent services like Primus, Bell Digital Voice, Vonage, or Skype is like apples and oranges.  Those are Internet applications.  This is a dedicated service, complete with truck roll.  The Internet applications are a heck of a lot more exciting; Rogers doesn&#39;t appear to be interested in that space at this juncture.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Rogers&#39; new plans are just regular local phone service provided by a cableco, rather than Bell.</i><br />
Exactly.<br />
The thing is, they never claimed otherwise.  Some of the reporters have hyped it as a fancy VoIP offering, but Rogers was talking about this for a long time now &#8212; and PacketCable is just the protocol they eventually settled on to implement this.<br />
The fact is, comparing this to access-independent services like Primus, Bell Digital Voice, Vonage, or Skype is like apples and oranges.  Those are Internet applications.  This is a dedicated service, complete with truck roll.  The Internet applications are a heck of a lot more exciting; Rogers doesn&#39;t appear to be interested in that space at this juncture.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.markevanstech.com/2005/06/30/rogers-telephony-plans-underwhelming/#comment-371</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jun 2005 14:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is this the Rogers VoIP service they&#39;ve been touting? Or just Sprint in a new dress?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is this the Rogers VoIP service they&#39;ve been touting? Or just Sprint in a new dress?</p>
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